Joined: 22 Jul 2007
|Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: Rules
This is the Auckland Lair forums, anybody may join and will automatically be a "newbie". However to be able to fully view all the forums you need to become a full member. Simply meet any of the current full members, go and do some approaches and you will be upgraded (get them to PM me with the details).
Until then you will only be able to view forum announcements and the newbie's forum. I've chosen this two tiered systems because it gives the best of both worlds. An openness that allows anybody to join and get started, while at the same time allowing a very high level of privacy for those who desire it.
There is no point in posting if your posts are unreadable
Please "Preview" you posts once over before pressing the "Submit" button
Please use a basic spell checking tool.
Please use paragraphs.
Please avoid over using CAPS in your posts.
Please do not quote entire posts by other people in the same thread.
Please do not make contentless posts that don't add anything to the discussion.
This is a private community. As a member of it you can be assured that your privacy will be respected. However you have a personal responsibility to assure and respect other peoples privacy too.
The basics of privacy:
- Never tell anyone that another member is part of the community
- Don't talk about the game with your friends especially in the company of another community member
- For your personal privacy it is generally advised that you don't tell others about the community. This is especially true if you are a newbie as the most common mistakes about telling others about the community occur during this period. Although telling other people about the community can be seen to benefit them, in the vast majority of cases doing this can cause serious repercussions to yourself and your relationships with other people in your social circle.
- When introducing someone from the community to a friend use there real name.
- Just because you have met someone from the community doesn't mean they want you to also be a part of there social circle outside of the community. Feel free to wave or say a quick "hi" to someone you have met. Strongly avoid forcing yourself on them and there social circle. Be considerate of others, don't be needy.
- Never attempt to "game" a friend of a community member that you have been introduced to by that member. If share or end up sharing a similar social circle, declare your intentions to your community brother first.
- Be mindful of your own privacy and don't post any of your own contact details in the open newbie forum.
Members of this forum are here for a lot of different reasons. Some people just want to sleep with a lot of women. Some people want a long-term relationship with there "perfect" girl. Some people want to expand there social circle or improve there life.
I have the utmost respect for anyone that is taking action, improving themselves in whatever form and pursuing what they want to get out of this community. If you have a different reason for being here than someone else that is a great thing. But there is no right or wrong reason for wanting to be a part of the community as long as you are here to improve upon yourself.
Please respect other peoples direction. For example if a member decides that, with an abundance of women in his life, he wants to enter a long term relationship with one of them this is not "one itus" or a disease (lol). Remember that you are not better than someone just because you have a different goal.
However if you feel a member is settling for second best, please take it upon yourself to talk with him as a friend. Give him the support and encouragement to remember why he joined this community in the first place and what he wanted to get out of it. Remind him that you can truly have anything you want as long as you are prepared to take action. Remind him that at the end of the day it is HIS decision and you are merely here to support and encourage him to be his best.
The members of this forum are here for many reasons. But the one reason that is common to all is the love of women. Guys here focus on improving there skills to they can get better results with women.
If you HATE women, please don't post here. Go see a psychologist instead.
Although we defiantly want to encourage a fun and relaxed feeling to this forum. Consistent malicious "Hating on women" will be taken very seriously.
We are all here to learn from each other. Everyone is entitled to there opinion. Although like any community, people who consistently contribute good information are appreciated by other members. A newbie still has just as much entitlement to disagree with a long term member and vice versa. It should never be reasoned on these forums that a long term member is right, simply because he is a long term member.
If you are a long term member, please take it as your role to help newbies find the answers for themselves in a constructive way. We were all newbies once. The community has grown as we have been a part of it and we now have the opportunity to give newbies the kind of support and encouragement to help them find a shorter path to success. Perhaps they will teach us something along the way
On a related point, do not brag/boast. Everybody will get more out of this if we are all honest with ourselves and each other. There is nothing to be achieved eventually by being deceptive.
It is a simple fact that there are more people on here giving the right kind of advice than there are bad. But is this enough? And what can you do when someone posts something stupid?
Option 1) IGNORE THEM. Surely there can be nothing more damaging to someone's ego than realising that they are just like a crazy old man, babbling away to themselves with no one around that deems it worth responding to there posts. It's a waste of your time. It's certainly a waste of my time trying to clean threads up to the point where newbies can benefit from them again. I care a whole lot less about some immature trouble maker than everyone else that could actually benefit from good threads.
Option 2) DISAGREE. How about simply disagreeing with them, rather than personally attacking them. The second best thing to people not responding to ego driven posts is 10 people simply disagreeing with it. Buy giving them the excuse to launch into a flame war with you, you are preventing the overwhelming majority (us) from indicating that we also disagree, which is the whole idea.
Option 3) SORT IT OUT OFF THE LAIR. No explanation needed
You will be considered to be flaming if it is evident that you are personally attacking someone because of something they said. - Flaming
e.g. "That's a lot of shit."
Rather than disagreeing with them and offering a different perspective in a constructive way - Constructive Criticism
e.g. "I wouldn't say that what you said is that great... but possible to pull off? Yes. Personally I feel that this would put you on the back foot. Only one way to find out, try it out!"
|Wikipedia wrote: |
|A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. |
Anyone Trolling here will obviously be instantly banned, but the point of this set of rules is for EVERYONE. Troll's will keep coming back if people feed them.
As wikipedia said, a trolls primary intent is to provoke an emotional reaction. Just think about it for yourself, put yourself in their shoes. Why would ANYONE waste there time trolling? The answer to that question is they get a KICK from people GIVING THEM A REACTION to there inflammatory posts.
If you don't react to them in an "emotional way", in fact even better, if you don't react to them AT ALL, we wont have any problems with trolls
The worst thing you could ever do is try to FLAME a troll. This doesn't solve the problem. It's makes it worse.
Because if you get caught up in a long thread of replying back and forth with them then you are just as bad as them! (and you will be treated accordingly)
Naturally as flaming and trolling is not allowed, then neither is character defamation as that falls under the same general category.
The Auckland Lair is a non commercial entity. People that attempt to post for commercial interest will warned.
Exceptions are sometimes made with regard to those who have already shown a history of offering value to the lair and continue to do so. However this is an exception to the rule and not to be assumed. People that post 1 or 2 things of a non commercial nature and then start posting with commercial interest will not be covered by this exception and will be warned.
While we hating banning people just as much as you like being banned yourself, we will not let flagrant breaking of the rules go by unnoticed. As a general rule of thumb it will go like this (but we can be flexible... if the case if severe enough we may just jump a few steps ahead ):
1st offense: warning.
On the next times: editing of their post for correction without warning.
Continued and repeated breaking of the rules: short "wake up" ban.
Subsequent bans: much longer and if required when unbanned is then of newbie status on the forums as full membership is "put on hold".
credit: big ups to Medium for his huge effort in conjunction with myself to help assemble together this post